Lissette shares her Conversion story
with all her respect.
Ms. Lissette Maria Dernier,
O.P., was born in San Turce, Puerto Rico to
Ciprian and Ana Dernier, the younger of their
two children. Her family moved to New York
City when Lissette was a year old and settled
in a three family house in the South Bronx
with her father, mother, brother, paternal
grandmother, paternal aunt, two uncles and
cousin.
Lissette
was blessed to attend Catholic school in the
Bronx: St. Anselm’s Grammar School, Cathedral
High for all girls and St. Helena’s Business
High School. At St. Anselm’s, Lissette was
taught by Dominicans nuns and preachers.
Praise God, St. Anselm’s Catholic Church is
serving the community and an honor to say that
St. Anselm’s Catholic school is still open
with almost 500 children attending. She was also influenced by her
very devout grandmother who taught her all
about the many different saints, spirituality
and having a relationship with our family in
Heaven. Lissette’s father, Ciprian, was a
member of the Society of the Holy Name of
Jesus. As a young girl, Lissette became a
member of the Daughters of Mary and attended
monthly meetings dressed in her white and blue
uniform and beautiful white veil. She always
had an Altar, which she would adorn with
different statues, of the many Saints, and
always, flowers for our Lady Of The Immaculate
Conception. Lissette desired to enter the
Cloistered Dominican Monastery, located near
Hunts Point Avenue, in South Bronx and visit
and stayed many times, at Blauvelt, also
Dominican Sisters, infused with great love for
Jesus Christ. Lissette was aware of her family
in Heaven.
Lissette’s parents owned a
number of different businesses, a Shoe Repair,
Deli/Grocery, Variety Gift & Clothing Shop and
a Social Club. She and her older brother
Miguel would go to their parents’ businesses
to help after school each day. From her
earliest years, Lissette recalls helping with
activities such as boxing shoes, shining shoes
on a machine, replacing the heel tips on
ladies shoes and most of all, interacting with
the steady stream of customers. Lissette
explains, “I have always dealt with the
public, the many people in and out of our
businesses, especially the Deli/Grocery.
Lissette said, business in New York City is
nothing like here in Rochester. She was
naturally very friendly and open, especially
with her faith, sharing in conversation with
the many different personalities that would
come by. People would come to Lissette to
talk about their problems and needs, even
spirituality. There were so many different
characters, people in need, abused and
battered wives or children, drug addicts, the
sick, the homeless, alcoholics, elderly,
people of different nationalities, the drug
dealers, gang members, all of many different
faith denominations. In the midst of all of
this, her family was loved by such a diversity
of people. Lissette, also was there for her
family and was a caring person for the many
people in need in her community. Lissette
explains, “Many were good people and some not
so good but they all would share with me and I
with them. After so many years, it became easy
for her to recognize, who was down to earth
and a for real person. God always protected
us and the angels and saints were praying for
us. South Bronx, became dangerous
surroundings. Some customers she saw
regularly and many just once in a lifetime.
It seemed strange to have a long conversation
with someone you would never see again, gone,
on his or her journey. Here today, a reality
and gone tomorrow or the next moment. I had
wonderful, loving, caring, parents but I also
feel that, I was raised, by the public. My
son has the same lovely friendly personality
and loves to share.
As a family, we never ate
dinner together seated at a table. We were
always at the business, especially when mom
and dad got into the Grocery business, that
was 7 days a week, 17 hours a day. Before
that, it was different, dad use to take us to
Church, shopping in Manhattan, especially
during Christmas time, it was nothing like
these days, Rockefeller Center, Broadway,
China Town, City Musical Hall, Movies, Shows,
and Skating, Puppet Shows, etc. Lissette had a
wonderful, fun, active life as a little girl
coming up in New York City, with her brother
Mike.
Again, until, her parents got
into the Deli/Grocery business. We always had
these words in our mouths, “Hello”, “Good
Evening”, "Can I help you?" or “Thank you.
Come again!” We would take a bite and run to
the counter to wait on other customers, and
then run back to the kitchen, then back to the
counter while stocking up the refrigerators
with milk, beer and soda and meeting with
salesmen.” Many times, Lissette had to go
shopping for groceries and stock, for the
Grocery Store at the Public Market and the
huge Food Wholesale Companies. That was where
Lissette met, many Grocery Store business
owners. Lissette’s upbringing instilled in her
a tremendous work ethic, happy childhood, full
of action and love. It was the best school of
diversity, culture, business, people, faith
communities, personalities, characters and
spirituality that anyone could ever
experience.
As a young woman, Lissette
worked with youth and young adults in her
neighborhood at an anti-poverty program, she
did some Secretarial work, and even worked as
a Travel Agent, here in Rochester, NY.
Lissette truly enjoyed her work with the
Anti-Poverty program, working with all kinds
of people, even the Youth. There she had many
responsibilities, one of which was
coordinating youth block parties and other
events. Lissette loves to coordinate and
implement, planning Events. She also served
as a housing specialist, helping people that
were evicted or had problems with their
landlords or needed assistance during a court
appearance. She also helped the Hispanic
community and close family, as a translator.
Lissette attended a local college, called
Hostoss in South Bronx and worked as a
telephone operator on 167th Street in the
Bronx off the Concourse. As the years passed,
the South Bronx became a ghost town infested
with Heroin and other hard drugs. The addicts
would come to Lissette for money, food and
sometimes just to share their burdens.
Her father would always tell
her, “Lissette, you will never have anything!
You want to give it all away and you trust
everyone!” Lissette was deeply in love with
the Lord and had felt a calling since a very
young in age. Her grandmother knew of her
calling and helped her in her spirituality.
Lissette went on to St Helena’s Business High
School. Yet soon, at age eighteen she was
married at St. Ann's Church in the South Bronx
and had a son, Victor Jr. and now three
grandchildren and a wonderful daughter in
law. A few years later, Lissette’s marriage
ended in divorce.
In her adult life, Lissette
moved upstate to Rochester, NY and in 1974,
and amazingly, Lissette, drove City Bus for
Regional Transit in Rochester, NY. She was in
awe, when she first saw a woman bus driver and
asked her, for information. Lissette worked as
a City bus driver from 1974 to 1979, then
moved back to the Bronx in 1981, with her son.
She managed for her parents, their last Mini
Super-Market, for 13 years. Lissette also
speaks of her son and his involvement in the
Deli/Grocery, as he got older, he worked just
as much. They all took turns in the Business
if not, they would have had to close the
business for vacation and Lissette’s father,
wouldn’t allow that. During this time,
Lissette took up Travel and received a
Diploma. After her parents retired, in 1993,
Lissette moved back to Rochester and later, in
1994, Lissette was joined, by, her parents, as
her father was sick with cancer. Victor her
son, also moved to Rochester, with his wife
and first child. In 1995 she opened her first
grocery store working tirelessly seven days a
week, seventeen hours a day, with never a
thought of a different way of life. She would
tell everyone, “I have grocery in my blood”.
Her life here, in business was almost like
much slower. Lissette struggle, working hard,
for those 6 years.
One day, one of Lissette’s
cook, told her, Lissette, you are a
Fisherwoman of souls. She never thought in a
million years, God’s plan for her. Amazing but
truth! She was always with her Bible and the
word of God in her lips. For many years
Lissette, lived, one foot in and one foot out,
serving more than one Master, a sinner telling
another sinner, where to go and receive the
Bread of Life, the Eternal Life. That was
until the Lord called her on August 23rd
of the Jubilee year of 2000, the Feast of St.
Rose of Lima when Lissette experienced a deep
conversion. Lissette was going through trials
and her business was not going well. Soon her
business was closed and for three months
Lissette prayed the Chaplet of Divine Mercy
every morning with EWTN and then ran off to
attend Holy Mass. Everyone was urging
Lissette to file bankruptcy and to sell
everything in the store. Meanwhile, Lissette
was in prayer, getting closer to the Lord at
Sacred Heart Cathedral, which she still visits
on her own, for private prayer, in front of
the new beautiful Tabernacle. In the year
Jubilee of 2000, she received a very powerful
calling. She was being called to leave her
old life and step beyond to a new and deeper
spiritual life in Christ.
Lissette waited upon the Lord
and trusted Him for three months while her
business was closed. During her three months
in the desert, Lissette felt nothing but
shame, guilt, regret, fear of God and great
sorrow for having offended Him and for having
hurt others. She couldn’t eat. All of her
sinful life of darkness was before her and she
could see how blind and lost, she had been.
Her tears were as tears of blood. She was
full of love but felt lost as she was being
transformed. Her family, were telling her,
sell the equipment, sell the business, but,
Lissette was waiting upon her Lord. Lissette
said, waiting upon the Lord, is never time
wasted. After her desert experience, God,
showed her, one Sunday, the day Sister
Faustina was canonized a Saint, a Rainbow
around the Sun, over her home. Lissette,
called her mother, and she told her mother,
Abba Father, is telling me, deliverance is
close.
The following two weeks, the
Lord sold her business. She then went on
pilgrimage to Quebec with her parents to the
shrines of Our Lady of the Cape and St. Ann’s
of Beaupre. Upon their return, Lissette’s
parents noticed a supernatural change in her
and her talk and life style. She was
transformed completely. Lissette was on fire
for the Lord and was never the same again.
Lissette, said, she died to her old life but
it was the Lord, through the Holy Spirit that
called her. Yet, she said, it was powerful,
like, the conversion St. Paul had. It wasn’t
like, Jesus came and asked me, or go ahead and
take your time, no, it was a immediate,
transformation of mind, heart, will and soul.
Lissette knows now, who is in her blood, the
lover of her soul, Jesus Christ, Holy Trinity.
Her early days of conversion, was a fire, a
passion, deep love and a desire only for God
and what pertained to God. Nothing else, was
of any interest to her. Lissette, has not
watched television, in 8 years, nor listen to
radio, just into her Scriptures, spiritual
books, Dominican studies on theology and
spiritual music, chant. Lissette loves her
Monks and her Dominican preachers and family.
After her day as a servant,, Lissette has her
Cell. Lissette is a repentant sinner, offers
her self to God daily, allowing the Spirit to
lead her, in her obedience, she follows.
Lissette said, I offer my iniquities, my
imperfections, weaknesses, to the lover of my
soul and He keeps me safe and on track.
The same year her business was
sold, Lissette became a parishioner of St.
Philip Neri parish and served as a volunteer,
for three Parishes. Her pastor, Father
Timothy Horan was a great influence on
Lissette in her new spiritual journey in
Christ. Father Horan gave Lissette a Staff,
and told her, “Go Get Them Girl”. Lissette
still has her wooden Staff and will use it one
day as she will preach and give her Testimony,
in the name of Jesus. Lissette confided to
him her transformation of mind, heart, will
and soul to God. She told him that she didn’t
understand it fully, that it was strange and
different. Her joy and tears came daily.
Lissette, said, she was led, to prayer and
service, by the Holy Spirit, every day.
Father Horan could see her passion and fire
and recommended that she attend a “Fire Rally”
in Buffalo, NY. There Lissette had the
opportunity to meet Steve Martin from EWTN.
He is a great Evangelist.
Lissette returned from the
conference even more on fire for the Lord!
Lissette knew and understood then that she was
being called to be a witness for Christ as an
Evangelist and Preacher. She understood that
she was born again to a new life and dead to
the old life and the world. Yet, she asked,
“me Lord?” She asked this in great humility,
knowing of her littleness and worthlessness.
The Lord became the lover of her soul and she
was serious about living only for Him.
Lissette also received a cross to carry in the
same year of Jubilee of 2000. Lissette now
understood where she had been, where she is
now and why … Jesus! She knew Jesus brought
her out of darkness into the light, in the
most powerful way.
Lissette was leading others to
the Bread of Life, yet, not being obedient nor
living the Gospel life as we are called to
do. Yet, she needed to serve only one Master,
instead of one foot in the world and one foot
out of the world. Lissette said to me, only
the Holy Spirit, could convert a soul. Jesus
is our Savior! Lissette knew that even as a
sinner, the Lord uses her and now she is a
repentant sinner, for her, conversion is a
daily process until we die. Yet, she said,
it’s a great experience, knowing that God is
in charge of my life now. She said, I am
serious and I pray daily for His forgiveness,
blessings and guidance.
In 2001, Lissette was led by
the Spirit to be trained in evangelization
under the Diocese of Rochester and began
volunteering at three local parishes. This
led to her appointment as the Chair of
Evangelization of six parishes in the City
East Communities under Father Timothy Horan.
One day, after Mass, Father Horan presented
Lissette with her Certificate of
Evangelization. That same year, 2002, she
began volunteer work at St. Ann’s Nursing
Home. In 2002, Lissette was led by the Spirit
to become a Campus Minister at the SUNY
College University, at Brockport, a work that
she continues to the present. Again, she
asked the Holy Spirit, me Lord? From 2002 to
2005, Lissette coordinated many outstanding
local evangelization events, missions and
pilgrimages. She started her “Reach Out &
Touch” evangelization ministry in the
community of Charlotte and began seeking
resources for food for the different food
pantries in the community of Charlotte. The
Open Door Mission, Mr. Fox, helped her with
food for the Pantry and she helps him with
frozen Pie’s during the Holidays.
Lissette continued
coordinating fundraisers and requesting
donations of canned goods and supplies, school
supplies and toys, never did she asked for
money. As a Campus minister, Lissette
involved the students in her “Reach Out &
Touch” ministry.
Lissette coordinated an
American Red Cross expo in the Community of
Charlotte and a few health and evangelization
events at Ontario Beach Park to help create
awareness of the Catholic faith, provide
health information and information about the
many departments and services offered by the
American Red Cross. Lissette was also a
member of the End Of Life committee. Working
together they published a Pain Management
booklet in English and Spanish. Lissette was
also a member of the Consistent Life Ethics
committee of the Diocese of Rochester.
In 2006, the Lord spread
Lissette’s work outside of western New York to
the east coast of the United States, as she
was privileged to become the East Coast
Promoter of the traveling exhibition of
Eucharistic miracles for the Real Presence
Association of Chicago, IL. Lissette has
coordinated many successful and well attended
Eucharistic conferences in conjunction with
the exhibition.
Lissette explains, “Since the
Lord sold my Deli/Grocery in the Jubilee year
of 2000, I have become a Lay Dominican, this
was my second calling and have been serving
Him as He leads me. I trust the Lord and live
an extremely contemplative, monastic life, in
mystical unity with the Holy Trinity, in
prayer, contemplation, community, apostolate,
service and study, obedience, trusting our
Master & Savior, the Dominican way of
spirituality. We have a hunger and zeal to
share the fruits of our Contemplation with
others, giving others what Christ has bestowed
upon us, sharing my experiences and materials.
Sharing Jesus Christ daily, instructing,
teaching, preaching, living, celebrating, the
Gospel Life in Christ. It is about Jesus, His
teaching, His promises and His holy life. We
live in such joy and delight because Jesus
Christ is the Truth within us and that’s the
truth and love we live to share. The flame of
the Dominican way, started by the Dominican
nuns and preachers who influenced me in my
youth has become a passion and fire deep
within me. Even today, I share all I do out in
the world with my Dominican Preachers and
family. I always share what God gives me and I
invite others if they care to get involved.
Each one of us are called differently with the
many different Charisma! I never used to like
to read. My Spiritual Director and
Chaplain Father Richard O’Connell, which I
love very much, inspired me and encouraged me
all these years, leading me on the right
spiritual path. I have been blessed to
have Him and I know God put us together.
Father Richard O’Connell,
always tells me, Lissette, God is on your
side, and I can spiritually see that. Fear
not, he says, don’t over do and stay out of
mischief. Now I can't put down my spiritual
books! I mostly buy all my spiritual books at
the Abbey of Geneseo and Father O’Connell
after he reads his, give them to me. Father
Richard should have been a Dominican because
his life is also, study, contemplative,
community, apostolate and deep prayer, even in
his elderly retired days. He prays the Rosary
and does the Chaplet every day, along with
daily Mass that many times he celebrates. He
is still in action even though he is retired.
I am truly blessed.
Lissette said, the Holy Spirit
bestows upon us many virtues and gifts that
help us to grow on our personal spiritual
journeys and we help other souls. I am no
longer blind or lost, by the grace of God. We
are called to be holy and to live the gospel
life, and to GO and preach the truth of long
ago. Jesus said, He will be with us till the
end of time.
God is my devotion and my
life, my first and only interest. It is like,
reaching that point in life when you know,
what you heard in Catholic School, “We are
born to love God, with all our strength,
heart, will and soul. That is a great joy
and delight, daily in my life. He is there
also to correct and instruct me, keeping me in
the right path and in His statutes. How deep
do you desire our Lord to take you? How much
are you willing to give up for Him?
It is about being, dead to the
world and will keep dying to self by the grace
of God who transforms us daily. Infused in a
mystical union of love, I see Him clearly
involved in the details of my daily life and
in the lives of others. His missions,
continues through us, His vessels, channels
and instruments. Lissette is full of mercy,
love and forgiveness but preaches truth, with
conviction, worrying about her soul and the
souls of others.
As we pray the Liturgy of The
Hours, we pray for each other, as one prayer,
united in our one true Church. Together with
the faith of a mustard seed, we build and
press on. As a lay Dominican, the Spirit
keeps entrusting me with different apostolates.
All for the glory and honor of God! Not I but
Christ! In humility we know that we are
nothing and that we can do nothing without the
Lord. The Holy Trinity, God is in control and
we must allow Him to be God.” I am last and a
servant, in the peace of God. Lissette said,
she is a witness to Christ and will preach her
past, where she was and where God has her
today, in His love and mercy!
In Christ, St. Dominic, St.
Thomas Aquinas, St. Catherine Of Siena, Moses
& Elijah
May our Blessed Mother keep us
under her Holy Mantle! Veritas!
Ms. Lissette Maria Dernier,
O.P.
In Spirit & Truth!
Ms. Lissette Maria Dernier, O.P.
94 Springfield Avenue
Rochester, New York 14609
Mobile: 585 260-1255
ldernier@frontiernet.net
ldernier@aol.com